"aggressive" bull bars - Page 2

Dazza_XL · 06-03-2006, 16:09

I have mine on my BA, and i have the "Airbag Compatible" Sticker on both sides, and on the front, and i have never had a drama!

BeautUtes

Feral Vixen · 06-03-2006, 16:22

I think it all depends on the cop, some reckon it is fine as long as it meets their idea of a safe bar, while others seem to enjoy being ar$eholes about the whole deal...i can't work on the air bag theory cos i don't have any in my vs but i still get hassled for every thing else they consider wrong with my bar

Woohaha · 06-03-2006, 16:43

Well, after a very interesting chat with Irvin Bullbars, they refuse to make a 5-poster (airbag compatible or not) for a BA Falcon as it is illegal (cough cough cough). They say the 3-poster is perfectly legal, with the unpainted mesh on the front. I have heard tho, that they are one of the most vocal when it comes to the anti-5-poster regime.

I believe Trax 4WD in the Eastern States makes an airbag compatible 5-poster to suit late model Falcons and Commodores for around $1650.
www.trax.net.au

CrispyXR8 · 06-03-2006, 16:48

Feral Vixen you have got it in one it does depend on the cop which not the right way to go because if you get one that is having a s**t day then you are likely to get a sticker for it. What really needs to happen is that everyone be told what you can and get have, but at the sametime they really need to get out for the office and have look at where we drive and what the roads are really like because lets face it the road in the country are not the same in the city.

BeautUtes

CrispyXR8 · 06-03-2006, 16:48

Feral Vixen you have got it in one it does depend on the cop which not the right way to go because if you get one that is having a s**t day then you are likely to get a sticker for it. What really needs to happen is that everyone be told what you can and get have, but at the sametime they really need to get out for the office and have look at where we drive and what the roads are really like because lets face it the road in the country are not the same in the city.

CrispyXR8 · 06-03-2006, 16:56

Woohaha if you are looking for a 5 poster for your falcon that is air complatible then ring the guys at S.W Platt in N.S.W when i got my bar they told me that they would ship if over for anyone that wanted it, but i can tell you that the one that is on the front of my car was $2400

shorty13 · 06-03-2006, 17:55

Well i want to add me bit too.... I actually dont have a bullbar as of yet but am at the moment paying one off... So i will have one soon... and yes it is a 5 poster... I dont understand all the laws about 5 posters... I know soo many ppl with there utes and 5 posters and some who have had yellow stickers for different reasons and others who havent had them... So it may just be the cop you get yes.. But then again they should all be doing there job properly, neways... I mean I dont live in the country as such, but i do spend sometime on very country like roads and Im drivin ova east in Sept, so i dont want to be hitting any roos either... So back to the whole point bout the bullbars I want one right or wrong and im goin to get one so if the cops want to be assholes then they can... but its still the whole thing about every other law that some cops just bypass.... I totally agree with the others who have said they should be spendin our miney on other things... I heard the main reason they want to ban our loved 5 posters is becoz they can seriously injure a pedestrian... Hello not one single person has been hit or killed with a bullbar yet... So y??? If they want to ban bullbars well 5 posters on Utes y cant they ban them on trucks to... Untill they justify the law properly so it makes sense and applys to every1 then ill be fighting it all the way... Also the other thing that cracks me up is its only a law in WA and we are the most rural state and have the least amount of population so i really beleive that its sooo stupid!!! And if my insurance company wont pay my claim then ill insure my car with a Eastern State company simple as... So there guys thats my bit... How ridiculous... So thanks guys and hope we can fight to keep our 5 posters....

Dazza_XL · 06-03-2006, 18:00

Try www.tuffbullbars.com.au out of Toowoomba. Dunno about freight, but mine is a balltearer!

BeautUtes

rumsup1 · 06-03-2006, 23:50

Was talking to several who have been defected for having five posters all of these utes where from other states whats the story with this my five poster has been deemed ok by the SA Police have just returned from a road trip taking me thru NSW,VIC,& the ACT and didn't have any problems with any of the police in these states maybe this John Dombrose would be kind enough to explain this to the rest of use or is he just trying to score browny points whats his next party trick try to ban Bullbars on trucks. So Mr Dombrose how can it be legal in 3 states and in the A.C.T and not in WA?????????????

Dazza_XL · 07-03-2006, 08:00

Well here is what QLD Law Says-
Bull bars
Bull bars must be designed and fitted so that the safety of the vehicle is not adversely affected. They must be firmly and securely mounted and supported, and mustnot constitute a danger to other road users. Bull bars must not obstruct the vision of the driver and should not project further from the front of the vehicle than is necessary for its attachment. Bull bars should not add a significant load to the front suspension.

Bull bars must be free of sharp protrusions and all exposed sections of the bull bar and fittings must be radiused and deburred. Forward and side members should be designed to reduce the risk of injury to any
person who may come into contact with the bull bar.
Bull bars must not obscure the driver's view or any light.
In particular, the visibility of indicator lights at all viewing angles must not be reduced, and if so, additional lights must be fitted or the original relocated in accordance with the relevant legislation or Australian Design Rules. Surfaces of the bar that could reflect light from the vehicle's headlights must be matt black.
Vehicles fitted with an airbag or manufactured to comply with ADR 69 - Full Frontal Impact Occupant Protection or both ADR 69 and ADR 73 – Offset Frontal Impact Protection, can only be fitted with a bullbar which:

--has been certified by the vehicle manufacturer as suitable for that vehicle or

--has been demonstrated by the bull bar manufacturer to not adversely affect compliance with the ADRs or interfere with the critical airbag timing mechanism, as the case may be.Bull bars that comply with AS 4876.1-2002 provide a

higher level of pedestrian protection.

06-03-2006, 16:09	#21 (permalink)
Dazza_XL Status: Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Queensland. The Sunshine State. Posts: 2,575 Rep Power: 10	Re: "aggressive" bull bars I have mine on my BA, and i have the "Airbag Compatible" Sticker on both sides, and on the front, and i have never had a drama!

06-03-2006, 16:22	#22 (permalink)
Feral Vixen Status: Beaut Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: West Pilbara Posts: 350 Rep Power: 26	Re: "aggressive" bull bars I think it all depends on the cop, some reckon it is fine as long as it meets their idea of a safe bar, while others seem to enjoy being ar$eholes about the whole deal...i can't work on the air bag theory cos i don't have any in my vs but i still get hassled for every thing else they consider wrong with my bar __________________ Daddy's little angel's gonna raise a little hell

06-03-2006, 16:43	#23 (permalink)
Woohaha Status: Not God, just God-like... Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Coolup Posts: 1,577 Rep Power: 4	Re: "aggressive" bull bars Well, after a very interesting chat with Irvin Bullbars, they refuse to make a 5-poster (airbag compatible or not) for a BA Falcon as it is illegal (cough cough cough). They say the 3-poster is perfectly legal, with the unpainted mesh on the front. I have heard tho, that they are one of the most vocal when it comes to the anti-5-poster regime. I believe Trax 4WD in the Eastern States makes an airbag compatible 5-poster to suit late model Falcons and Commodores for around $1650. www.trax.net.au __________________ *And I heard a voice in the midst of the four Beasts, and I looked and behold, a pale horse,* *and its name it said on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.* *www.Paull-Warner.com.au*

06-03-2006, 16:48	#24 (permalink)
CrispyXR8 Status: Feral Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Secret Harbour Posts: 167 Rep Power: 4	Re: "aggressive" bull bars Feral Vixen you have got it in one it does depend on the cop which not the right way to go because if you get one that is having a s**t day then you are likely to get a sticker for it. What really needs to happen is that everyone be told what you can and get have, but at the sametime they really need to get out for the office and have look at where we drive and what the roads are really like because lets face it the road in the country are not the same in the city.

06-03-2006, 16:48	#25 (permalink)
CrispyXR8 Status: Feral Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Secret Harbour Posts: 167 Rep Power: 4	Re: "aggressive" bull bars Feral Vixen you have got it in one it does depend on the cop which not the right way to go because if you get one that is having a s**t day then you are likely to get a sticker for it. What really needs to happen is that everyone be told what you can and get have, but at the sametime they really need to get out for the office and have look at where we drive and what the roads are really like because lets face it the road in the country are not the same in the city.

06-03-2006, 16:56	#26 (permalink)
CrispyXR8 Status: Feral Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Secret Harbour Posts: 167 Rep Power: 4	Re: "aggressive" bull bars Woohaha if you are looking for a 5 poster for your falcon that is air complatible then ring the guys at S.W Platt in N.S.W when i got my bar they told me that they would ship if over for anyone that wanted it, but i can tell you that the one that is on the front of my car was $2400

06-03-2006, 17:55	#27 (permalink)
shorty13 Status: May 2006 Best Chicks Rural / BNS Ute! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maddington Posts: 255 Rep Power: 4	Re: "aggressive" bull bars Well i want to add me bit too.... I actually dont have a bullbar as of yet but am at the moment paying one off... So i will have one soon... and yes it is a 5 poster... I dont understand all the laws about 5 posters... I know soo many ppl with there utes and 5 posters and some who have had yellow stickers for different reasons and others who havent had them... So it may just be the cop you get yes.. But then again they should all be doing there job properly, neways... I mean I dont live in the country as such, but i do spend sometime on very country like roads and Im drivin ova east in Sept, so i dont want to be hitting any roos either... So back to the whole point bout the bullbars I want one right or wrong and im goin to get one so if the cops want to be assholes then they can... but its still the whole thing about every other law that some cops just bypass.... I totally agree with the others who have said they should be spendin our miney on other things... I heard the main reason they want to ban our loved 5 posters is becoz they can seriously injure a pedestrian... Hello not one single person has been hit or killed with a bullbar yet... So y??? If they want to ban bullbars well 5 posters on Utes y cant they ban them on trucks to... Untill they justify the law properly so it makes sense and applys to every1 then ill be fighting it all the way... Also the other thing that cracks me up is its only a law in WA and we are the most rural state and have the least amount of population so i really beleive that its sooo stupid!!! And if my insurance company wont pay my claim then ill insure my car with a Eastern State company simple as... So there guys thats my bit... How ridiculous... So thanks guys and hope we can fight to keep our 5 posters....

06-03-2006, 18:00	#28 (permalink)
Dazza_XL Status: Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Queensland. The Sunshine State. Posts: 2,575 Rep Power: 10	Re: "aggressive" bull bars Try www.tuffbullbars.com.au out of Toowoomba. Dunno about freight, but mine is a balltearer!

06-03-2006, 23:50	#29 (permalink)
rumsup1 Status: Addicted Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Adelaide,All Points of the Compass Posts: 3,134 Rep Power: 8	Re: "aggressive" bull bars Was talking to several who have been defected for having five posters all of these utes where from other states whats the story with this my five poster has been deemed ok by the SA Police have just returned from a road trip taking me thru NSW,VIC,& the ACT and didn't have any problems with any of the police in these states maybe this John Dombrose would be kind enough to explain this to the rest of use or is he just trying to score browny points whats his next party trick try to ban Bullbars on trucks. So Mr Dombrose how can it be legal in 3 states and in the A.C.T and not in WA?????????????

07-03-2006, 08:00	#30 (permalink)
Dazza_XL Status: Admin/Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Queensland. The Sunshine State. Posts: 2,575 Rep Power: 10	Re: "aggressive" bull bars Well here is what QLD Law Says- Bull bars Bull bars must be designed and fitted so that the safety of the vehicle is not adversely affected. They must be firmly and securely mounted and supported, and mustnot constitute a danger to other road users. Bull bars must not obstruct the vision of the driver and should not project further from the front of the vehicle than is necessary for its attachment. Bull bars should not add a significant load to the front suspension. Bull bars must be free of sharp protrusions and all exposed sections of the bull bar and fittings must be radiused and deburred. Forward and side members should be designed to reduce the risk of injury to any person who may come into contact with the bull bar. Bull bars must not obscure the driver's view or any light. In particular, the visibility of indicator lights at all viewing angles must not be reduced, and if so, additional lights must be fitted or the original relocated in accordance with the relevant legislation or Australian Design Rules. Surfaces of the bar that could reflect light from the vehicle's headlights must be matt black. Vehicles fitted with an airbag or manufactured to comply with ADR 69 - Full Frontal Impact Occupant Protection or both ADR 69 and ADR 73 – Offset Frontal Impact Protection, can only be fitted with a bullbar which: --has been certified by the vehicle manufacturer as suitable for that vehicle or --has been demonstrated by the bull bar manufacturer to not adversely affect compliance with the ADRs or interfere with the critical airbag timing mechanism, as the case may be.Bull bars that comply with AS 4876.1-2002 provide a higher level of pedestrian protection.